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Yeah I was kind of wondering about that. Doesn't a closed or locked vendor usually mean we're not supposed to order from them or does it just mean don't talk about it if you do? I would be very leary about ordering from someone on a locked thread. Can you please clarify that here cat? Thanks a bunches.

Hey guys, if th thread is locked, there is a reason you are not supposed to talk about it. So dont.

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You are exactly correct. The reasons can vary greatly, but the bottom line is, it was closed for a reason. I may or may not be able to clarify as to why, it depends on when it was closed. Normally bad vendors ar put in the BL, BUT some, for instance, are closed because of, say, they have been known to obtain their meds from Pakistan.....etc. Admin knows a TON of info about the vending world and I respect his opinion immensely. We are not always able to give a reason...sometimes we simply do not remember. Big forum.

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Oh and you are always welcome to order from wherever you like......that is your business and your decision. Sometimes you just cannot talk about it here.

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Silver, this is a fantastic thread and I see that a lot of newbs have gleaned info from it. Thank you.

I do want to add something about vetting new vendors. I had a discussion with Geocat (thanks brother) and he suggested that we post how to vet a new vendor.

1) all new vendors MUST go through Admin.

2) Admin may not approve all vendors, even if they are vetted.

3) proper vetting can/must include, several successful orders placed by trusted membes of the forum, really good reviews on another trusted forum and approval by Admin.

We are much more careful about posting new vendors than other forums. So, these are the steps. Any questions, feel free to contact me, no matter how small the question.

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Awesome. Great info and thank you for clarification.

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@ Cat Thank you ... that eventually would have been a question I would have asked.

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Not sure where I can even post this question and can't PM anyone yet (Silver Shadow). I saw mention of a particular vendor as it related to the TOP10. Well I see that thread was short and then closed. But I did give them a try and so far things are seeming to go well and great communication. I am not sure if there is an appropriate place to post info on them. I am even afraid to mention them as I am not 100% versed in the rules yet. But I am sure there is enough information here to figure it out. - Thank you

 

 

Actually that DID help as far as the posting process. And yes I have seen the posts that are "Got TN, waiting" and I find them annoying. To quote Tommy Boy "I can shit in a box and write guarenteed on it ...." Anyway, No this one is not in the Blacklist as best I can tell. But the question was asking if they were "affiliated" with another site that IS in the Top10. I believe THAT is why that particular thread was closed.

 

As I am waiting 10-14 before receipt I trust I will be able to PM by that point to verify this particular kind of post. As I assume if they are not Top 10 , and they are NOT blacklist, there is probably a place for them to be posted and I assume the kind of imformation others would want. I did see someone else posted on the particular thread I mention "I will wait for more feedback before trying them" , but search turns up nothing else ..... so Maybe I am the First Guinea pig :) But this test is nothing compared to what I got ripped off that brought me to this site in the first place :)

 

Again, thank you for the clarififaction you DID give.

 

Why are you so interested to bring up a vendor from a closed thread.

The vendor prefer NOT to be listed

here below the email from the vendor.

 

Hello Forum Admin,

Thanks for your interest in our site and for inviting us onto your forum as a vendor - your offer is very much appreciated! We have heard a lot of good things about the good folks at Drugbuyersguide so it's really nice to meet you.

We are however still in the vendor start-up phase of our site and will not able to handle the volumes of orders that could come our way from your 13.000 members. So it would probably be prudent for us not to be listed on your forum yet - I hope you understand? If our ordering system is overwhelmed by too many orders then that could damage our reputation and that is something we are trying to avoid.

Thanks again though for your very kind offer - we really do appreciate you contacting us, we will stay in touch and we hope that at some time in the future we can be listed on your forum.

Sincerely,

Doc

 

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Thank you Admin for stating the reason as to the closed thread, and I do understand. I was satisfied with the other answers I read however. I will say that your post does make me feel a lot better though on the choice I made. Thank you again.

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Bumping this up..

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Hi guys, I just wanted to post a couple of things:

MOD QUEUE (when your posts need to be reviewed by staff before they show up on the forum)

Newbies are automatically on mod queue in the very beginning. It will usually fall off after a couple of days, depending on your posts. Also, it is possible to be placed on mod queue randomly. This is just a means to monitor the forum and its members posts. It does not always mean you have done something wrong! Lastly, mod queue is used to monitor people that have broken the rules or who have questionable posts. If this is the case, you will usually receive a message from staff letting you know why. If you do break the rules, disciplinary action could be a verbal warning, mod queue, warning "points", suspension and/or banning...or any combination of same.

FLAMING

If you see someone flaming on the forum, instead of flaming back at them, hit the "report" button. I have a lot of people PM me about someone flaming or breaking some other rule. I then have to track down the post which can be very time consuming, delete it and then speak to the member. If you hit the "report" button on the subject post, I am immediately directed to the post and can delete/edit, it, leave a message for the member and message staff all in one action. Much much easier. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO USE THE REPORT BUTTON. Also, if you report a post...it will remain anonymous. Please never EVER flame back at someone. That causes so many problems. You are more than welcome to correct said member politely, but if you cannot...please just report the post.

LOCKED THREADS

This has been somewhat covered in this thread but I would like to reiterate.....if a thread is locked, that means we are not to discuss this matter any further. There are many reasons for the locked threads. IF A THREAD IS LOCKED DO NOT START ANOTHER THREAD TO DISCUSS THE SAME SUBJECT. If you want to know why a thead is locked, feel free to ask mods but it is possibile that we may not remember why it is locked.

DISCIPLINARY ACTION

As I mentioned above, there are several actions we may take if you have broken the rules. If you do receive warning points, please do not say "well so and so said the same thing in this thread, and you did not discipline them, you are picking on me!" We cannot possibly view every single post. There are THOUSANDS of posts every day. Do not take it personally! If you are disciplined for something, and you see someone else has broken the same rule without discipline, just report their post. Keep in mind there is a HUGE difference between a long term member breaking a rule and a newb breaking the same rule. We may tend to be more lenient with the long term member, because they have built up a history with us. It is all situational.

DUPLICATE THREADS

Before you start a thread, PLEASE PLEASE make certain that there is not already a thread discussing the same thing. This is extremely difficult to fix, and causes confusion and a generally sloppy forum. Use the search function to look for a thread name PRIOR to starting a thread.

Please remember forum monitoring is not an exact science. Each and every situation if different and we do our best to fairly correct and administer action based on each situation. Admin pays for and monitors this forum to his standards. His standards are very fair and admirable. If you have a suggestion for the forum, we do have the "feedback" section of the forum in which to post your suggestions. All reasonable suggestions are taken into consideration. I am here to monitor the forum but I am also here to serve the members. It is truly my pleasure to do so. If you have any questions or comments for me, please do not hesitate to contact me.

If you would like to donate to the forum management, please see the donation thread. Currently, we can accept donations via Bitcoin. Admin is looking into other payment options at this time, and we will advise you if any further options are abailable.

Thank you guys, as always, at your service,

Cat

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Hi cat thank you for this info. It was really helpful for me. I do have a question tho that has been asked concerning double posting between vendor threads and the quality thread. Does the same rule apply. Like basically a's thread someone posts on quality and then goes to the quality thread and posts the same. Both being important info and pertaining to both threads. How would you suggest we go about it. Thank you much..:)

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The above post describes the exact lack of understanding i am trying to do away with. Subsequently, please see the painstaking explanation below. I repeat, forum moderating is not an exact science.

There are no double standards here Jimmy. A longer term member is a more trusted member, period. Double standard implies that you treat two like people differently, based on no logic. A long term member and a short term member are not two "like" members. Actually there are very few "like" situations here on the forum. There can be many factors which contribute to each instance.

That being said, keep in mind that I do not mean senior members can get away scot free with breaking all of the rules. That is not the case. Certain rules are broken much more by newbs than by older members, usually ending in a PM from me. Also certain rules are punishable by death no matter who commits them.

THAT being said, the answer "because Admin said so" is a perfectly acceptable answer on a private forum that is owned, paid for and

operated by a single person. Think of it as Admin's living room. What he says, goes. It dosn't need to be fair. This is not union labor.

I hope that clears things up in your mind Jimmy. Do feel free to PM me with any questions.

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Hi I just want to add that if you follow the rules posted and take the time to read through the threads and just through this thread, you'll be fine. Alot of newbies dont take the time to read and thats where they get a slap on the hand but as far as ive seen its been very fair and noone has been banned that didnt deserve it. This is a awesome board and the recources and the way it runs is phenomenal. As a wise person told me. Youll never find another like it nor another admin like ours.

Point being if you're doing what you are supposed to be doing than you wont have to worry about other members and whats fair or not..

Keep in mind there is a HUGE difference between a long term member breaking a rule and a newb breaking the same rule. We may tend to be more lenient with the long term member, because they have built up a history with us. It is all situational.

The mods here do a good job, but do you not think that you should maybe be more lenient with us newbs? Surely a long term member should know better??

By doing this You could avoid having double standards.

Just making a point.

Peace

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Again, newbs are more likely than not to get a PM or verbal warning. However, if said newb comes in and starts breaking certain rules, like the ones set up to prevent scamming, we are all over that immediately. Sometimes innocent people get sacrificed in the efforts to prevent our members, even ONE member, frombeing scammed. That is the way Admin (and mods) run the board. You'll not find another Admin so protective of his members. That is definitely what sets us apart from all of the rest. Now that I have picked up an additional mod (congrats 2Earls) you will see me once again in the introduction thread encouraging people to read the rules. An ounce of prevention............

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