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Steroids for cutting?


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Perhaps this Is the wrong sub, but would it make any sort of since to use a steroid catalyst as I’m trying to lose body fat a and maintain current muscle mass???? 
 

If there is a separate supplement that provides better results for what I described above, than please let me know!!!

And yes, if you couldn’t tell I’m a total newb to this shit lol. But I’ve been working out for years.

 

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I'd try a sarm or two first off if you're just looking for a boost. Imo I'm a rook and you should be aware of that. They just worked when I needed a slight boost cutting weight. Carradine in fact 

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6 hours ago, Massiveamounts said:

I'd try a sarm or two first off if you're just looking for a boost. Imo I'm a rook and you should be aware of that. They just worked when I needed a slight boost cutting weight. Carradine in fact 

 Im new to the fitness honestly, haven't been up to date since high school. Back then my friends were all taking Dball on the football team. I never took any since I was spending my money on weed haha. But now that Im getting back into fitness I was wondering whats a good sarm to try out to cut? Not super bulky. Also do sarms have the same side effects as roids? 

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No idea about the sarms but a good beginner cycle for cutting would be test e 500mg/week weeks 1-10 and anavar 40mg/day weeks 1-8 then pct. anavars pretty mild but I love the stuff for strength and vascularity. 

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Emoney is on point or start with a lil test with oral winny. That'll cut ya . I'm pretty new to this also. I checked every clinic I could and none accepted insurance and the others wanted a fortune....so I went the cheaper route. SARMS I got a great response from tho. Supposed to be safer idk check around and find someone more intelligent than me about it lol

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1) Diet. 2) cardio and weights split morninf and night unless you are feeling too sore or out of shape, in which case you still do it but jog or run a few miles at night instead of running with intermittent sprinting added in or whatever your idea of fun cardio is). 3) if you have mainly 1 and most of 2 down, your stack can be simple, but I’d stay away from peptides and cardarine for now and do what your body is familiar with and is backed by decades of medical research. If you can’t pin ED or EOD, do the following split into 2.5 injections per week of:

-250mg-500mg week test C or E;                  -masteron E 400-600mg/week;                      -Primobolan 500-600mg/week;                       -start or end last 8-10 weeks with Anavar 40-70mg/day upon post workout with cup of coffee and split second dose with morning coffee or before bed. (winstrol is fine, too, but Anavar is king. Winny might dry you out some but is just too toxic and will induce DNA level changes that can cause issues for renal and liver function on top of just being brutal on your liver. It shouldn’t be necessary if you’re diet is right with the compounds mentioned on your first time out). 
-rhGH 2-3IU ED on empty stomach upon rising for two months before your cycle, for the 1.5-2 months you stay on cycle, and for the month you stop your compounds and begin PCT about two weeks later (Anavar being the exception - it can be ran up until a day or two before pct starts.)
 

Short ester version might look like this: 75mg/Test phenyl Prop, 50mg-75mg Nandrolone Phenyl Prop, and 100mg masteron propinioate EOD (or even ED, really) and it will cut you like a Turkey in 8-10 weeks. Preload with two months hGH and continue for a month after cycle (during PCT), and you’re a monster. Primobolan is the best and safest (masteron is safe as well but will give you power and mental well-being and primo needs longer cycles - like ideally 2 months or more at 500-600mg week. People use 200 to cheap out and don’t keep the shredded, solid muscle it will help you retain on a calorie deficient diet (and while all these compounds will do that as well, they won’t help you retain it for nearly as long or with the permanency that primo and to a lesser extent Anavar will.)

prepare to lose some hair if you’re susceptible to it, but side effects should be minimal and masteron should combat most of them, but a little proviron can help. Keep Exemestane on hand and tamoxifen and or clomid, too, just in case. And use two weeks  of two administrations of 2500mg hcG or 5000mg hcG after these compounds have left your system. Use 25-50mg clomid for two to four weeks during this time as well. Check bloods beginning of cycle and end, as well as after PCT. listen to your body above all else. Treat sleep like diet - don’t fuck it up. 

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Yeah dont listen to a thing I said lol. These guys seem to know much more. Good shit. Thanks for posting, I learned a few more to add to what little i know. Much appreciated.

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8 hours ago, LatsDoodis said:

1) Diet. 2) cardio and weights split morninf and night unless you are feeling too sore or out of shape, in which case you still do it but jog or run a few miles at night instead of running with intermittent sprinting added in or whatever your idea of fun cardio is). 3) if you have mainly 1 and most of 2 down, your stack can be simple, but I’d stay away from peptides and cardarine for now and do what your body is familiar with and is backed by decades of medical research. If you can’t pin ED or EOD, do the following split into 2.5 injections per week of:

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-rhGH 2-3IU ED on empty stomach upon rising for two months before your cycle, for the 1.5-2 months you stay on cycle, and for the month you stop your compounds and begin PCT about two weeks later (Anavar being the exception - it can be ran up until a day or two before pct starts.)
 

Short ester version might look like this: 75mg/Test phenyl Prop, 50mg-75mg Nandrolone Phenyl Prop, and 100mg masteron propinioate EOD (or even ED, really) and it will cut you like a Turkey in 8-10 weeks. Preload with two months hGH and continue for a month after cycle (during PCT), and you’re a monster. Primobolan is the best and safest (masteron is safe as well but will give you power and mental well-being and primo needs longer cycles - like ideally 2 months or more at 500-600mg week. People use 200 to cheap out and don’t keep the shredded, solid muscle it will help you retain on a calorie deficient diet (and while all these compounds will do that as well, they won’t help you retain it for nearly as long or with the permanency that primo and to a lesser extent Anavar will.)

prepare to lose some hair if you’re susceptible to it, but side effects should be minimal and masteron should combat most of them, but a little proviron can help. Keep Exemestane on hand and tamoxifen and or clomid, too, just in case. And use two weeks  of two administrations of 2500mg hcG or 5000mg hcG after these compounds have left your system. Use 25-50mg clomid for two to four weeks during this time as well. Check bloods beginning of cycle and end, as well as after PCT. listen to your body above all else. Treat sleep like diet - don’t fuck it up. 

 

Overkill for a first cycle IMO

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5 hours ago, trinity said:

 

Overkill for a first cycle IMO

Yeah I was going to say i dont know much about it tbf but damn that sounds like a lot for a first timer. Like I said tho dont mind me I'm just here for the conversation and others can handle the knowledge part much better than I. 

 

Let me ask you guys this while I got your ear, does test have a tendency to make you want to sleep like hell after 4 or 5 after injection or am like I think just burning myself out in the gym. I'm 45 btw no spring chicken with some health issues. Altho I'm 6 ft 241 and still have one or two abs so I'm not out of shape by any means.....cardio not so great lol.  It's getting better I've been trying to lean out for summer . Why I came to this thread to begin with in fact. 

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@Massiveamountstestosterone can possibly make you sleepy with the weight gain and change in metabolism ie the body trying to recover with sleep. Its all down to the ester of how quickly it is into your system but I assuming you are 4 or more weeks into it? It will definitely have built up stable blood serum levels now even with a long acting depot.

It will also be an aging factor. We just dont recover the same as we age. 

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1 hour ago, trinity said:

@Massiveamountstestosterone can possibly make you sleepy with the weight gain and change in metabolism ie the body trying to recover with sleep. Its all down to the ester of how quickly it is into your system but I assuming you are 4 or more weeks into it? It will definitely have built up stable blood serum levels now even with a long acting depot.

It will also be an aging factor. We just dont recover the same as we age. 

 

Man dont I know that last part is the truth. I have some heart issues that cause me to tire also. I was born with a bicuspid valve which means I am one of 1 or 2% of lucky individuals born with 2 valves instead of 3 like the norm. So I take it a bit easier. In fact first time I've used test. Tried a few sarms that put on a lot of water and seemed to bloat me. Muscles hard as a rock tho. Also what about these puffy ass nips. I shouldnt be having all that should i? Thanks for the info my friend btw

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12 hours ago, Massiveamounts said:

 

Man dont I know that last part is the truth. I have some heart issues that cause me to tire also. I was born with a bicuspid valve which means I am one of 1 or 2% of lucky individuals born with 2 valves instead of 3 like the norm. So I take it a bit easier. In fact first time I've used test. Tried a few sarms that put on a lot of water and seemed to bloat me. Muscles hard as a rock tho. Also what about these puffy ass nips. I shouldnt be having all that should i? Thanks for the info my friend btw

The puffy nips will be gynecomastia you need an anti estrogen or aromatise inhibitor

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On 4/9/2021 at 2:34 AM, trinity said:

The puffy nips will be gynecomastia you need an anti estrogen or aromatise inhibitor

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Will do because do not want. I'm taking an A.I sarm but it's not what I need and I need to adress it and had but I've got an order running late. What I'm using, well if you care enough you can see where what im using came from. I'm not sure what im allowed say here but it's obvious but I have an outstanding order I'm waiting on with some prov. I didnt think it would of been delayed this long and am in need of something tbh. I'm pretty sure it seems usps has it delayed but I will get in contact. Appreciate it friend. 

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Hey Trinity what's the best way of getting ahold of you btw. I'm sorry I am having difficulty using this forum lately. I'm just old. 

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On 4/11/2021 at 7:06 PM, Massiveamounts said:

Hey Trinity what's the best way of getting ahold of you btw. I'm sorry I am having difficulty using this forum lately. I'm just old. 

Donate to the board and then PM/DM us. It will open that feature to you

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